#frustrating things to neurodivergent people

[alonelybeemakingart]

I am a neurodivergent German, I have Friends that are in the spectrum too and I study psychology, and let me tell you, this is absolutely a Sieg heil, Not an "Asperger thing"

Even If it had been unintentional (which it wasn't) he should have had apologised. His reaction to People calling it out is very telling.

It is so infuriating Hearing People chalking it Up to neurodivergency. We have to apologize and adjust to neurotypicals so offen for small Things and People offen don't Show any understanding, but when Musk makes a blatantly evil and harmful gesture, that ist so Bad, you can go to prison for doing it in Germany It's suddenly OK?????

(Again I fully belive that he did this fully wäre of the meaning Not because of neurodivergency but this Argument IsJust so frustrating)

Do not let them erase this. Do not let them tell you he meant "my heart goes out for you."

This man is the grandson of a Canadian Nazi sympathizer who moved to South Africa BECAUSE he thought the apartheid was just the coolest.

He has a gaggle of kids specifically because he believes his genes are superior and need to be spread to improve humanity.

He has thrown his support behind the neonazi party in Germany and the far right party in the UK, not to mention how far he's wormed up the ass of the Republican party.

He threw two sieg heil salutes back to back at the inauguration of the president of the United States and is trying to scrub the evidence off the internet.

Elon Reeve Musk is a fucking Nazi.

[rouge-fauna]

Some ironic/idiotic points I’ve seen way too many people say:

Tommy and Dream should have worked things out privately

How? Did you miss the part that Tommy literally blocked Dream on everything and refused to talk to Dream? How is he meant to handle it privately? Besides I’m pretty sure Tubbo in his first stream is the one that brought up things like the messages to Tommy’s mom in the first place, so if anything Tubbo is the one who brought up things to the public and made things bigger than they needed to be. Remember, his hour long stream about the meme and reasons why he dislikes Dream and how this is Dream’s “death by a thousand cuts” came first before Dream’s first stream where he reacted to parts of Tubbo’s stream.

Dream takes no accountability

He apologized for something he’s not even done, he literally took down the meme, admitted it was a bad thing to do, apologized multiple times for it, apologized for not doing a proper apology the first time and explained his reasoning. That’s literally the definition of taking accountability. Like what more do you want? Want him to beg on his knees for the internet (who called him every slur in the book) to forgive him? He made a mistake, we all do, he apologized, let’s move on, because there are parties in this drama who haven’t taken accountability or apologized so maybe we should be focused on that.

Dream and Dream Team are sexist and misogynists

Says the people who formed a nation on a role play server called L’MANberg because it didn’t allow woman (or non-Europeans). Says the guy who I get frustrated to watch because of all his sexists and inappropriate jokes (I still don’t understand how the majority of his fans are woman like heh?). Says the people who when asked why they think this only bring up recent public examples, despite a - they have always been sexists behind the scenes implication, all but one of which are bogus anyways.

Well they didn’t handle the Caiti situation properly.

What do you mean? They all responded, I’m pretty sure apologized and owned up and took Caiti’s side and made sure to tell their fandom to not go after her. Meanwhile, you think Dream should have brought her up, when she has specifically asked to not be talked about anymore. Pretty sure if he never responded he’d be bashed for not taking accountability and if he did mention her in the recent video then he’d be bashed for not respecting her wishes.

Dream’s neurodivergence (Autism and ADHD) is not important here why is it being used as an excuse.

It ain’t. I don’t think I’ve seen a single person excuse his behavior or whatever, in fact the same people pointing out the autism piece are also mostly the same neurodivergent people who are the ones upset by the use of the word. But this all blew up with the r word which Dream was told by people using it against him that it can be used by someone who’s autistic. So from the get go it’s kinda important. Then you look at the pieces, at the comments people make about Dream being weird or doing things that are socially unacceptable, is inappropriate, ridiculous…etc and then you get to a 3 hour stream of talking in circles as they can’t seem to understand eachother or at least Tubbo not understanding Dream, which afterwards Tubbo labels his Audhd way of communicating as manipulative. So yea I’d say autism, adhd and neurodivergence are pretty damn relevant and important.

Just ahhhhhsbhfnnabdnnand… I still see people condemning him for the damn r word and it’s like bruh… move on. We are way past that damn meme he apologized multiple times for at this point. Especially from the moment Tommy posted his video and weaponized his fandom against Dream. And good god, and if you didn’t watch the streams then don’t be acting like you have this hot take and posting essays and shit because damn, maybe the reason no one’s said that is because it isn’t true, something you’d known if you watched all of the streams!………….. sorry just had to get that off my chest…

[miralax-gatorade]

Ok ok everyone likes to talked about abused dog characters but hear me out: abused cat characters.

I think the appeal of an abused cat character is that their abuse is more likely to be justified and excused. Cats are often viewed as standoffish and mysterious compared to dogs. They often become very aggressive and avoidant as a result of abuse. Dogs also do this, but a lot of people are more willing to reintegrate them because of the idea that just showing them love will “fix” them, while cats are viewed as more difficult to “fix”.

those kind of stereotypes hurt both dogs and cats, because cats are given less chances, and dogs that don’t heal quickly are given up on.

I also notice that cats are sometimes unpopular because of their behaviors. They stand on tables and knock things over and scratch furniture and often take longer to befriend, which many people say is the cat being intentionally malicious, when it’s kinda just how they are. It’s pretty easy to accommodate their nature, but they’re still going to do frustrating things sometimes. You can get them toys and scratching posts, and you can start using sturdier cups with lids, but they’ll probably still walk on the table and scratch the couch, that’s just part of having a cat.

One of the most accurate cat memes I’ve seen is the “cats express their autism in their own unique ways”. My autism/adhd is probably part of the reason I’m a cat person, I relate to cats a lot. Some cats, like my Ramona, are incredibly sweet and cuddly, but also shy and picky about her people. Other cats, like my Teensy, are usually grumpy and very specific about when she wants to be loved on. Yet others, like my Onyx, just act a lot like dogs. All three of them have been made fun of for their odd behavior, and while they can’t understand that, it’s kinda made me think about how similar it is to how neurodivergent people are treated. All three of them definitely have trauma, with Ramona and onyx having been given to me at age ten when I didn’t quite understand the whole “respecting boundaries” thing, and teensy suffering a severe injury when we first got her.

some of their behaviors definitely come from trauma, but most of them are kinda just in their nature. I do my best to accept their behaviors and don’t punish them, but not everyone thinks like that. I think that the main difference between abused dog and cat characters is that dog characters’ behaviors primarily come from trauma, and cat characters’ trauma primarily comes from their behavior.

I’m not trying to say that everyone thinks about cats and dogs like this, or that you can’t have a preference, but these are just some things I’ve observed and wanted to start a discussion about.

not sure if I’ve clearly gotten the point across but oh well. Cat autism rules.

[my-autism-adhd-blog]

My Biggest Frustrations as an Neurodivergent Person

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[tea-cat-arts]

Actually, I hope Jiaoqiu stays blind (at least for a couple years in our time) and just bullies the Xianzhou alliance into inventing disability aids and treating disabled people better

[guardianspirits13]

I have a theory that people who are the most critical of neurodivergent traits in others are more likely to be neurodivergent themselves.

We've heard this before through the lens of parents who say "that's normal, even I do that" and failing to realize that they likely have the same variety of neurodivergence, but I think on a deeper level people who have spent their entire lives memorizing social cues and societal norms and masking strongly without realizing it will probaly find it easier to spot people who regularly break those rules and become upset because they hold themselves to such a rigid standard and are frustrated that others freely reject standards that they put so much effort into meeting themselves.

Very rambly, but just a thought.

[ndcultureis]

Autism culture is being annoyed when people are like "autistic people aren't sexless/loveless/emotionless" because I am sexless and (romantically) loveless and often emotionless (partly from autism and partly from anti-anxiety drugs)

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[dennisboobs]

my favourite thing about the always sunny podcast is listening to rcg all say something extremely neurodivergent and then agree amongst themselves and convince themselves its completely normal

[planetarythorns]

Every single time someone posts a 4th anni and Bloomfes prediction I die inside a little because something is usually off.

So welcome to my final anni prediction that I've been cooking for the past month and an explanation of my reasoning behind one or two minor massive things

The lineup (IF colorful palette stops chucking curveballs straight at our skulls this year) is going to most likely be An, Shiho, Airi, Ena, and Nene. This is assuming that leaders for anniversary are an every other year thing, and that members of 2nd anniversary cannot have a repeat appearance.

The only character that can possibly be contested is Ena, as Mizuki isn't entirely off the table, just unlikely with the likelyhood of Mizu5 being the next N25 event. (Mizuki being there instead of Ena would also fix the "issue" of this lineup being almost identical to 2.5 anniversary, with the only difference being L/N Miku being swapped for Airi, but eh.)

Now, that's the known part at this point. What people cannot decide on relatively unanimously is who tf is the 3 star. I've seen some people argue on the 3 star being Airi since she just had a lim focus not that long ago, but in my opinion:

The 3 star will most likely be Nene. This is because, if we look at the anniversaries past, the 3 star for an anniversary has been from the unit that gets the focus next anniversary. Anni1 had Kanade as a 3 star, and Anni2 was Mafuyu focus. Honami was the 3 star for Anni2, and Anni3 was Ichika focus. Obviously, this doesn't mean a pattern yet. But it's safe to assume that with Kohane as the 3 star for 3rd anniversary, 4th anniversary is going to be a VBS focus (Unfortunate I know, VBS fans can't catch a break)

So, why does that mean Nene is going to be the 3 star?

If we follow the pattern of the 3 star being from the same unit as the next anniversary's focus member, and assume that An is in fact the 4th anniversary focus, that means the only unit that will be without a focus for anniversary will be WxS. So ultimately, Nene will be the 3 star. (Additionally, if anniversaries are in fact alternating between leaders and non-leaders on lineup, that would mean 5th anniversary would be a Tsukasa focus. Not important to this, just something I find interesting.)

Bloom festival is a whole other clusterfuck. Rin and Rui are in desperate need of a lim, with Rin's last being from Let Your Song Resound, and with Rui's last being from Pandemonium. Rin is going to be on the banner as Bloomfes. One question comes to mind, though…

Will they let an OC be on an anni's banner as a fes card???? The only other time that's happened was 1st anniversary, with Miku and Ichika as colorful festival. The other two had Miku/Luka with Anni2 And KAITO/MEIKO for Anni3. So…it's ultimately unclear. The first Bloomfes being KanaMEI does give me hope that RinRui is possible, but there's truly no way to be sure.

If you read this far you're actually so awesome, ty for reading my 3 am word dump <3 Have a great day :3

[autisticlee]

no one knows just how hard I work at things. how I have to work 1000000x more than the average person to compensate for being autistic and adhd and probably other things i'm working out with therapist, and having a sort of physical disability i've not received any help or treatment for. everyone assumes I don't try or give up too soon. they think I just started, need more practice. they think I expect everything handed to me immediately with no work or effort and don't acknowledge the multiple years i've put into things. they think I have no right to be upset about still failing to get where I want even after working my entire life to get there, while watching people around me surpass even my meager goals within a fraction of the time and work i've out into the same thing. constantly getting surpassed by everyone around me who seem to barely do any work to get there compared to me. it's all handed to them and falls into their lap so easily. all because they don't have the extra obstacles to overcome and work around that I do. while they go from point A to Z immediately with no major stops in between, I have to go through every single letter and then some, often getting sent back to the start. but it's always *my* fault, according to everyone. it's not the fault of those around me who ignore me, don't support me, don't help me, don't believe in me, etc. it's my fault they don't do those things. because doing the work of 10 people in one isn't enough, just because it's me. and not reaching Z as fast as everyone else means I don't deserve any of the support or help or anything else and means i'm not trying hard enough. it doesn't matter that I *need* to work harder than 100 "normal" people combined to get even half the result! Just because I can't reach what they do means i'm not trying hard enough! ugh.

[everybody-hit-the-pyro-cue]

specialized education and gifted children programs are so fucked up I see the purpose but the execution and expectations are genuinely horrific I've yet to meet a single one of us that's doing okay besides from those who just reached their breaking point and chose to stop caring

[rouge-fauna]

Normally, I wouldn't really say anything about the drama and stuff, because that's not what I'm here for and honestly I feel like a lot of it is just none of my business. But, it just feels so close to home for me that I can't help but say something. Because here's the thing people aren't going to talk about and probably don't even realize, but I think so much of this drama actually has to do with Dream being autistic.

Just notice the themes of what Tubbo said about Dream being weird, inappropriate, not considering the social boundaries, not communicating, coming across wrong… etc these are all things that can be attributed to Dream literally not knowing better because of neurodivergence. That’s not an excuse but an explanation to know the difference between Dream texting Tommy’s mom out of being manipulative versus not understanding how that breaks a social boundary. That’s not to say Dream should get a free pass to do whatever but I think in the same way we take into consideration other people’s ages and their naivety and obliviousness and inexperience into consideration, Dream’s neurodivergence should be considered too. It is valid. It makes a difference between manipulative and malicious intent versus simply not seeing it the same way.

And really the sad thing is, that I think people will always dislike Dream. At the end of the day, I think that will never change, because even if he was the most perfect person people would still dislike him because of an underlying subconscious response to him not being like the rest. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he is made the villain in real life and in the dsmp, because it is simply a psychological fact that people inherently dislike autistic people. It’s not because they are ableist it’s just we don’t act like they do so that makes us weird and therefore unlikeable. And it’s hard to understand us because our brains our literally different and as has been said throughout history what we don’t understand we hate, we fear, we see as evil, we attack. Why does Dream get canceled and attacked over and over again? Not because they are true and it proves a pattern that he’s shitty, but because society is so desperate to find a more tangible reason to hate him other than the fact that they just do. Because his behavior breaks social rules he didn’t realize existed. Because he’s easy pickings. Because in my opinion it all comes down to autism and honestly until that piece is actually taken into consideration nothing will probably resolve.

[shoechoe]

"potentially autistic enough to get regularly assumed some form of neurodivergent including just being asked 'are you autistic' several times from friends and acquaintances, but not obviously potentially autistic enough to ever be evaluated for it" is such an interesting spot to be in

[kasumingo]

Goddddd the corn plate meme is the manifestation of how piss poor the analysis skills and need of interpretation is to the people consuming media nowadays

[maochira]

I decided to close my asks for now because requests are closed anyways and honestly, my asks have just been feeling kind of weird lately with just random words/sentences sometimes (for example, I received one with just the word "jelly" last night) and then there's the random paragraphs about anons' lives I've gotten as well. I have no idea what to respond to that stuff so it's been a bit frustrating to look into my asks lately.

[starphobe]

fh fandom back to wishing death on a fictional teenager for being mentally ill and not learning how to cope with that in a healthy way. what else is new